The Bible tells us to believe we will receive what we pray for, and warns us to be careful what we ask for.
For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith. Mark 21:23 KJV
Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. Matthew 18:18 KJV
However! if you believe and study the Book of Mormon, it has fail safes built into it. You do not have to be responsible for what you ask for. Examine the doctrine of the Book of Mormon.
And Assuredly as Christ liveth, He spake these words unto our fathers, saying: "Whatsoever thing ye shall ask the Father in My name, which is good, in faith believing that ye shall receive, Behold, it shall be done unto you." Moroni 7:26 RCE
These are not the same doctrine. The Bible is saying that you as a believer of God and a follower of Jesus Christ have power, be responsible and believe in it!
The Book of Mormon seems to be for those faint of heart Christians who don't know what to ask for and don't want to be held responsible for accidentally removing a mountain! Okay humor aside, but honestly lets take a look at it.
And Assuredly as Christ liveth, He spake these words unto our fathers, saying: "Whatsoever thing ye shall ask the Father in My name, which is good, in faith believing that ye shall receive, Behold, it shall be done unto you." Moroni 7:26 RCE
That is a pre-qualifier. So anything you ask that is not good won't happen. Sounds good doesn't it? Of course, except that isn't why it's in there. Do you suppose that God being a good and just God would honor a prayer request from you that is evil? No that doesn't make sense. So why is "which is good" be in there? Because it's an "out" for Mormon leaders. The Mormons will explain that you didn't get what you prayed for because its not good and God doesn't want you to have that.
Is that what the Bible says?
And whatever things you ask in prayer, believing, you will receive.” Matthew 21:22 NKJV
As you can see, the Book of Mormon give it's believers excuses and reason for unanswered prayers. A faith that needs excuses does not sound like one that has real power. And how can it? If you pray, "God, if it be good and in thy will" is that Faith? No because you have already opted to use an excuse and a pre-requisite for not looking like a fool. That isn't believing in the power of God.
However if you pray "God heal this sick man in Jesus name!" That is calling on the power of God in faith, believing it will happen. Face it, are you going to go up to someone and pronounce that, risk looking like a fool if you don't have a strong faith in your God?
This is another doctrinal differences between the Bible and Book of Mormon. And another example of why I truly believe that the Book of Mormon is Satan's bible as it weakens and erodes your faith and power in Jesus Christ.
Showing posts with label Bible verification. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Bible verification. Show all posts
Monday, May 23, 2016
Monday, August 3, 2015
Disproving with Proof
Hi, I'm Grace. This is going to be my first post on the BOM Talks blog. I wanted to start out by taking a step back and looking at something interesting about the Book of Mormon. Bear with me.
Alma 8:109
"And thus ended the words of Amulek, Or this is all that I have written."
Wait, I'm sorry but this mystifies me. Isn't the BOM inspired as well? The person writing this doesn't know if the words of Amulek ended there or not? If he just puts that because there was more and he knows it but he didn't write it, why put the first statement in there at all? Shouldn't it be assumed if that's all that is there, then that's all we need to know?
Something Else Interesting...
The Testimony of the Three Witnesses! And The Testimony of The Eight Witnesses!
This is neatly tucked at the end of the Book of Mormon to prove that the plates Joseph Smith used to write the Book of Mormon did in fact exist. Eleven people total signed testimonies saying they saw the plates.
Now let's flip to the back of the Bible. we've got maps maybe, a brief concordance, maybe a picture if you have certain versions, etc. But guess what's not there? You guessed it, no testimony of witnesses!
There's several reasons for this:
1. The Bible stands on it's own as the inspired Word of God and doesn't need a verification certificate.
2. The Bible was written by many people over hundreds and hundreds of years, thusly, each individual person is a witness to God and the things that happened.
3. Events of the Bible were also witnessed by secular scholars without Jewish/Christian faith that have non-bias accounts of the happenings.
4. Events and teachings of the Bible can be backed up by factual science. By this I mean not the theories that are spouted without evidence, but by any science that is proven in stone. In fact, the Bible enlightens us on scientific happenings that were written down before science ever discovered it.
5. The original text, prior translation, is still available for others to read. There is no need to believe just one man's translation because you can get original Hebrew and/or Greek copies of the text and study it yourself.
This brings up another interesting point of how you can still get the original Bible text and study the Bible for yourself. Yes, there are many different interpretations out there of the Bible, I say interpretations because that's what most of them are, they aren't translations, but you can get a side by side Bible. I have a side by side and also a King James Version, which is the closest direct translation I have so far found. At any rate, my point is, if you don't trust something, such as the NIV (since they change a MULTITUDE of things in the Bible), go BACK to the original text. Get a side by side. Or even learn Greek and Hebrew and read it for yourself! It's still there.
However, the plates are not. Not only that, but good luck learning Reformed Egyptian, which has never even been verified as an actual language and in fact looks more like topsy turvy Greek letters than Egyptian. So how can you verify that the BOM translation that you have is the right one? You can't.
And you can't go by the older is better rule because the older you go the more blatant fallacies you will find. That's right, the newer versions took out a lot of information that PROVED the Book of Mormon false.
Then there is always their other tactic of just trying to change the facts that disprove their book by doing things such as starting the rumor that we never landed on the moon. Or we never went into space. We did. We certainly did. And there are no men living there. We also have satellites and pictures of space. If you don't believe in satellites either, don't use Satellite internet, tv, etc because all of that most be fake as well.
So, yes, I've gone on a bit of a bunny trail, but my point is, why should it be so hard to believe in something?
The verified facts should point to the TRUTH of your faith, not the falsehoods. If you have to grasp at straws to try and prove something is true, and if you have to make up evidence and hide the truth, then there may be an issue there.
So if the Book of Mormon is true, show me the evidence.
~Grace Marshall
Alma 8:109
"And thus ended the words of Amulek, Or this is all that I have written."
Wait, I'm sorry but this mystifies me. Isn't the BOM inspired as well? The person writing this doesn't know if the words of Amulek ended there or not? If he just puts that because there was more and he knows it but he didn't write it, why put the first statement in there at all? Shouldn't it be assumed if that's all that is there, then that's all we need to know?
Something Else Interesting...
The Testimony of the Three Witnesses! And The Testimony of The Eight Witnesses!
This is neatly tucked at the end of the Book of Mormon to prove that the plates Joseph Smith used to write the Book of Mormon did in fact exist. Eleven people total signed testimonies saying they saw the plates.
Now let's flip to the back of the Bible. we've got maps maybe, a brief concordance, maybe a picture if you have certain versions, etc. But guess what's not there? You guessed it, no testimony of witnesses!
There's several reasons for this:
1. The Bible stands on it's own as the inspired Word of God and doesn't need a verification certificate.
2. The Bible was written by many people over hundreds and hundreds of years, thusly, each individual person is a witness to God and the things that happened.
3. Events of the Bible were also witnessed by secular scholars without Jewish/Christian faith that have non-bias accounts of the happenings.
4. Events and teachings of the Bible can be backed up by factual science. By this I mean not the theories that are spouted without evidence, but by any science that is proven in stone. In fact, the Bible enlightens us on scientific happenings that were written down before science ever discovered it.
5. The original text, prior translation, is still available for others to read. There is no need to believe just one man's translation because you can get original Hebrew and/or Greek copies of the text and study it yourself.
This brings up another interesting point of how you can still get the original Bible text and study the Bible for yourself. Yes, there are many different interpretations out there of the Bible, I say interpretations because that's what most of them are, they aren't translations, but you can get a side by side Bible. I have a side by side and also a King James Version, which is the closest direct translation I have so far found. At any rate, my point is, if you don't trust something, such as the NIV (since they change a MULTITUDE of things in the Bible), go BACK to the original text. Get a side by side. Or even learn Greek and Hebrew and read it for yourself! It's still there.
However, the plates are not. Not only that, but good luck learning Reformed Egyptian, which has never even been verified as an actual language and in fact looks more like topsy turvy Greek letters than Egyptian. So how can you verify that the BOM translation that you have is the right one? You can't.
And you can't go by the older is better rule because the older you go the more blatant fallacies you will find. That's right, the newer versions took out a lot of information that PROVED the Book of Mormon false.
Then there is always their other tactic of just trying to change the facts that disprove their book by doing things such as starting the rumor that we never landed on the moon. Or we never went into space. We did. We certainly did. And there are no men living there. We also have satellites and pictures of space. If you don't believe in satellites either, don't use Satellite internet, tv, etc because all of that most be fake as well.
So, yes, I've gone on a bit of a bunny trail, but my point is, why should it be so hard to believe in something?
The verified facts should point to the TRUTH of your faith, not the falsehoods. If you have to grasp at straws to try and prove something is true, and if you have to make up evidence and hide the truth, then there may be an issue there.
So if the Book of Mormon is true, show me the evidence.
~Grace Marshall
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